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Not 100% sure if it was Maya that Nick found out Charley's name from. I seem to remember him acting surprised when Mia mentioned its name (while being channeled by Maya in Turnabout Samurai). I could be wrong though. Can't be bothered going through it again to check... :P Strabo412 00:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


Somehow, it reminds me of Chuck the Plant, a common character in old LucasArts games.

That's been pointed out by quite a few people I believe. I'll stick something about it on the page. Thanks for reminding me (but sign your post with four tildes next time)! Strabo412 15:39, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Logic Edit

All caregivers should be under friends, while dick gumshoe should be under afflites. Right? Apollojustice4all (talk) 23:36, July 13, 2014 (UTC)

Considering a plant doesn't have emotions, can it have friends? - Strabo412 (talk) 15:56, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
Well I think it's obvious that Charely is part of the Wright Anything Family. Not to say I love my trees, but it's clear that Mia, Phoenix, and Trucy all love Charley.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 18:10, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
Not enough of a member to be so much as mentioned in DD (if memory serves, although he is of course always in the background). Perhaps the WAA does care about Charley, but Charley has no such feelings. He is a plant. Plants do not feel emotions. Can you be friends with something that isn't friends with you in return? - Strabo412 (talk) 18:44, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
I don't think your memory serves you enough, he is definitely mentioned, but I can't tell you where, unfortunately. I need to replay the game again. CrashBash (talk) 19:17, July 14, 2014 (UTC)
It was the DLC case. Apollo was telling Phoenix he'd be in the office watering Charely if he (Phoenix) needed any help. And about the comment on being greinds with something that can't return the feelings, it is not that uncommon to love something inaminate. Little kids often love their stuffed animals/dolls, some even have imaginary friends. It doesn't mean that they don't have a genuine friendship. But I guess comparing Charley to a toy is kind off silly. However people often love their pets and Charley is pretty much their pet in some ways. So no, I still maintain that he's part of the family and they love him.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 15:47, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
So what you're saying is that Charley, who is unable to feel friendship due to being a plant, should have the cast of the WAA as his friends. Is that about right? - Strabo412 (talk) 16:01, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
Yes. The Wright Anything Agency should be listed as friends if not family. After all they do love Charley. (The fact that he has a name kind of proves they at least care about him) Also another example of friendship/love between plant/pet and owner. I love my pet fish (plural) but I highly doubt that they love me back. If they even know I exist they probably just think of me as a provider of food. Does that make it any less genuine with the fact that I love them as any pet owner should?Franzyfan1998 (talk) 17:47, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
That's not the problem. I'll admit an argument could be made that Charley could be listed as a friend of the WAA on their pages (though I still dispute that), but the relationship isn't reciprocated. A plant does not have friends. A plant does not have enemies. A plant does not love, hate, fear, or envy. Charley does not know he is in an office, that his owner was murdered right in front of him, or knows who feeds and waters him. A plant has no sentience, sapience, or awareness. It makes no logical sense to list anyone as Charley's friend on his own page when he has no friends. - Strabo412 (talk) 18:09, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
Technically, that's not true, plants are living things just as much as animals (including humans). They certainly have awareness for one thing. But the whole friend thing is pushing it a bit, I will agree. CrashBash (talk) 15:28, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
Although plants are of course living things and do stuff like point their leaves towards the sun as it moves across the sky, "awareness" is perhaps not quite the right word. I wouldn't even classify that as instinct to be honest. However, as much as I enjoy natural history, let's not start a discussion into the "neuroscience" of plants shall we? :S - Strabo412 (talk) 15:45, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I'm still wondering why we have an article for Charley, but nothing about Charles. - Sligneris (talk) 14:43, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Um Sligneris, this may sound dumb but who's Charles? Are we talking about the long form of Charlie? All I could find is that sheknows.com Charles means Manly and accorsing to wikipedia it means Free Man! Hard to connect the name Charles to a plant, unless you want to adress the irony in the name.
Also Strabo I think you are looking for the word sentient. And it is true plants are not sentient beings but it would be weird calling Charley a friends to the WAA but not the other way around. I mean Phoenix took care of Charley for over 10 years, I think it's passed simple ownership. I think we should treat Charley like a pet, but that's just my opinion.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 00:49, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
Rude. I'm talking about Charles the Sofa, of course. - Sligneris (talk) 14:14, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
Ok how am i being rude this time? Also who's Charles the sofa?Franzyfan1998 (talk) 17:08, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
My money's on the sofa in Edgeworth's office. He looks like a Charles. Oh, and sentience, sapience, and awareness aren't necessarily the same thing, but this whole thing, amusing as it is, has really gone on too long anyway. - Strabo412 (talk) 17:17, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
So what do you suppose we do? Because I admit calling the WAA Charely's friends is a bit weird but simply calling them affiliates would also be weird considering how long Phoenix took care of him.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 18:02, July 17, 2014 (UTC)
Nah, Charles is in WAA too.
I'm honestly surprised we're listing a plant as a character in the first place, really. - Sligneris (talk) 18:19, July 18, 2014 (UTC)
Is Charles the left or the right sofa then? And the reason he's listed as a character is because he's quite the character. Obviously. All those classic quips of his. Good times. - Strabo412 (talk) 18:22, July 18, 2014 (UTC)
Why are we listing a plant as a character? In the words of Dick Gumshoe...
Dick Gumshoe
Cordyline stricta, pal!
And that's why. CrashBash (talk) 18:30, July 18, 2014 (UTC)
I just know I am going to regret saying this but when do they mention the sofas having names? You can't examine them. But back on topic what do you suppose we do Strabo? Or Sligneris (and others).
In my opinion? Leave it as it is at the moment. - Strabo412 (talk) 22:01, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

We could always have the owners and caretakers with Charley on their affiliates list, but not the other way around, since Charley doesn't know them. Then again, that would make it hard to navigate its' caretakers... - Spyromed (talk) 10:13, July 20, 2014 (UTC)

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