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Track titlesEdit

Are you and the rest of the folks over at your soundtrack translation thread happy enough with your translations for me to start changing them on the wiki? - Strabo412 (talk) 10:13, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it's fine now. We aren't over establishing some things, like AAI Pursuits, but these are minor edits that can be easily fixed afterwards, so feel free to change these already. Sligneris (talk) 13:55, May 9, 2014 (UTC)
Look I do not want to get into another spat so I am going to speak my personal opinion. What I say is my own opinion, and I mean no offense if offense is given. I know Youtube is not a realiable source but on general the people on youtube know the facts. I got some cool facts from it. And I find it hard to belive that two youtube users would be lying in saying that the title they put on the video is the true one. Also I found a surprising amount of people saying that the song title "the secret word is justice".
So even if what you are saying is the literal translation of the Japanese listings, I will go with what the English states and in order to do that I have to trust these Youtube users. If this makes me unwise that fine, but I will call them by what these people say. I hope you can understand that.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 20:16, July 22, 2014 (UTC)
I believe it was a general agreement here that tracks names put up by translation team on Court Records are the ones that are the most accurate translations and localizations for soundtrack titles. While it's true the idea originated from me and my knowledge of Japanese is restricted to the usage of dictionaries, there are two major contributors, Ash and Rubia who operate with Japanese on a daily manner, played Japanese version of the games and all the like.
You should keep in mind that majority of the tracks on the Internet are incorrect. "Lying Coldly" is absolute nonsense, which isn't what the track was supposed to be named at all. Until I started the project, no one even realized this. Even now, about 98% of the fandom will unknowingly lie to you that it's a correct name, regardless of the facts.
"The Secret Word is Justice" is literal translation of the track, I agree. It would be listed as such, under normal circumstances - however, said line appeared in Japanese version of the game, which in English version was changed by localization team into 'And my catchphrase? It's "In justice we trust!"'.
We choose official localization over literal translation. If this wasn't the case, "Fabulous!" which was Max's catchphrase, would be "Gorgeous!", track which was literally just the name of Tres Bien restaurant, would be translated as "Beauty Hermitage" and all the like.
I think it's about time to add "English (literal)" tab for tracklists. - Sligneris (talk) 22:19, July 22, 2014 (UTC)
Now I am confused, so I'm just going to call it by what I'm used to, if you don't mind. Franzyfan1998 (talk) 22:49, July 22, 2014 (UTC)
  • sigh* Yeah, way to make me feel that my hard work to get information as accurate as possible is appreciated, huh?
Alright, I guess. Just, here on the Wiki, where correct information is the key, keep in mind that these are the correct translations and it'll be fine. - Sligneris (talk) 23:45, July 22, 2014 (UTC)

The other von KarmaEdit

Do you have a citation for the gender of the other von Karma sibling? I feel that it would be good to have it on the von Karma pages as a reference. Even knowing what said fanbook is would be helpful. Is it Gyakuten Saiban 2 Investigate into the TRUTH or the Gyakuten Saiban 2 Official Complete Guide perhaps? - Strabo412 (talk) 15:41, June 2, 2014 (UTC)

5, 6, 7, 8, I can't believe I'm having to mediateEdit

Could both yourself and Franzyfan1998 please discuss your disagreement on Forum:Character Profiles in a calm and respectful manner with the minimum of caps-locking and interobanging before any further edits to the images in the character infoboxes? I will try to put in my two cents when I can. - Strabo412 (talk) 01:35, June 15, 2014 (UTC)

Ok I have to say this because It is my honst opinion and it has nothing to do with the problem. Your profile is so cute!
Ok that's settled. You may want to reconsider your threat. Also I will never give up! So you have little point in dragging this war on and please allow us to debate this calmly and rationally before any unnecessary moves are madeFranzyfan1998 (talk) 03:06, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
You seem to be doing the exact opposite of what you said here. - Sligneris (talk) 03:07, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
And you started this mess oh right you with your nitpicking!Franzyfan1998 (talk) 03:14, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Everyone except you is fine with it. No one else objected, no one else had any problems with the change. On the other hand, you do literally nothing but whine and sabotage others' work. I mean, what are your "contributions" in the first place? Edit wars? Vandalism? - Sligneris (talk) 03:16, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
My other edits have nothing to do with this. And by the way I found them quite useful as did others I'm sure. NOw it's late, I want to take my shower (Wasn't lying) can we please just let it go for a few hours!Franzyfan1998 (talk) 03:18, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
I'm going to bed and if you are sane you will too (out of health)Franzyfan1998 (talk) 04:01, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Where did you get idea that I am sane? That's be the most presumptuous thing to say about me ever. - Sligneris (talk) 04:02, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
That made no sense (half awake at the moment) Also bed is good! Also please allow us to debate this rationally before we completly jump on this wagon. Cause I have points to adress to you and I want ot maek them in a calm matterFranzyfan1998 (talk) 11:26, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Feel free to debate then. It would be a time much better spent than undoing the edits, you know? - Sligneris (talk) 11:29, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Glad we agre
A) you are a hypocite
B) These edits were never nessacary in the first place. The bilttle the original artworks! Artworks for the most part had no problem
C) You started back up this war, as we were calmly discussing possible solutions! I'm not the only one you ignored!Franzyfan1998 (talk) 11:56, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
A) Hypocrite? I believe it's just that I'm disagreeing with you.
B) Your subjective opinion doesn't rule this wiki.
C) No, I recall this differently. I just started talking about the edits on Trucy or Mia on the Forum thread. It was then that you went ahead and reverted things to be your way. - Sligneris (talk) 11:49, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
A) So you are debating this despite you sayiing you wouldn't?
B) I can't belive you even said that!
C) It's not like you were listening to what i had to say either buddy! Can you honestly say that you were going to wait until we sorted this all out before you would have made those edits!Franzyfan1998 (talk) 11:56, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
A) Huh, is that a problem? Should I maybe stop?
B) Why? It's true. The wiki is not a playground of a single one person. One person should go ahead averting the decisions approved by many.
C) That truly doesn't matter. The fact is, you threw the first stone during a truce, and no "would-be"s can change that. - Sligneris (talk) 12:01, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
A) NOw you shouldn't stop debating!
B) That's not what i meant and you know it! I know i'm not the only one on this wiki but you can't say you're truly doing what you're doing with everyone's consent!
C) I was! This is what you saii and I quote
"Thus, I just thought I wouldn't hold back any longer with it, and, more or less, decided to ignore you ^^;"
Real diplomatic!Franzyfan1998 (talk) 12:06, June 22, 2014‎
B) At least two people supported my idea, Crash Bash and Strabo. Now, on the other hand, how many people object, like you? How many people support constantly reverting things to be your way?
That exactly is, what proves it's you that are in the wrong. The change I'm making is approved by others. The change you're making is just your own selfishness. - Sligneris (talk) 12:16, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Look please don't drag them into this! (I'm sorry) Besides They were trying to fix our problem, then somone decided to anger someone who might have been seeing the point. But now that you've brought that up i must point out again you were nitpicking over somthing so small in the first place. Now can we please debate this rationally before you make more. Also who tried to repair a broken bridge between us me or you?Franzyfan1998 (talk) 12:25, June 22, 2014‎ (UTC)

Question: A suspection is made in the Game Clue. Ms. Scarelt in the Dinning room with the Gun. No one objects. Is the solution corrector wrong?Franzyfan1998 (talk) 21:18, June 22, 2014‎‎ (UTC)

Huh? What is that nonsense? Sligneris (talk) 21:45, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
A)Answer the question!
B) I saw your little edit! To quote you "not cute." You have reached the crown of hypocrisy. You've reached the new low. I suggest you apologize to everyone you insulted during those conversations. (For their sake not mine)
Hey, Franzyfan1998, I have a question for you, and I want you to answer it.
What. Is. Your. PROBLEM!? CrashBash (talk) 22:43, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry. This guy's been bugging me! And it feels like Slig is peer pressuring me to give up. And besides that he's not giving me much respect twisting my own words! Please excuse me for losing my cool a few times. I want to settle this as rationaly as possible as I would think Slineris would.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 22:50, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Okay, what is it now about? Something about hypocrisy? This really isn't anything new.
Ah, wait, do you mean my old discussion with CrashBash about the old soundtrack titles? That's old stuff from over half a year ago, not related to the current incident and I believed both me and him put the past way behind us... I hope at least. Coincidentally "Question: A suspection is made in the Game Clue. Ms. Scarelt in the Dinning room with the Gun. No one objects. Is the solution corrector wrong?" was written before I deleted the old conversation. What the hell did you mean? - Sligneris (talk) 23:14, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
A) You like dodging questions don't you.
B) I'm sorry if i over stepped my boudries I was frustrated with you for yelling at me all while you were yelled at from what looks like (from a 3rd eye perspective) pretty similar moves. Again I apologize for over stepping my boundries.
C) And in case you're interested in how I knew Something my teachers always say "Just because you deleate something off the intrnet doesn't mean it's truly gone"Franzyfan1998 (talk)
I wasn't surprised you knew, it's a wikia, where the history of edits is kept, so educating me on how internet works is not necessary. Rather, I just don't get what you're talking about, especially in point A). Also, incident that occurred back then was mostly caused by me insufficiently argumenting another big change I did, hich was re-translating some wrongly translated tracks from Japanese. Quite the thing, when you know nothing of Japanese and just use dictionaries, really. Somehow still got it better than people who were actual translators... CrashBash back then, like most of the fandom believed that the names most common were official titles and that my adjustments were fan-translations, as if any track title ever wasn't merely fan-translated at that point in time... - Sligneris (talk) 23:42, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Again I apologize for overstepping my boudries, on a sperate note can we please finsh this up before Monday starts, I don't want this to ruin my week.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 23:48, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Oh yeah Clue. Well that will be explained if you calmly answer the question.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 23:49, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
The answer is 42. Really, what is the question you're trying to ask? - Sligneris (talk) 23:52, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Again with you dodging questions, I need you to answer so I can see what you are thinking. Is the solution right or is it not?Franzyfan1998 (talk) 00:54, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
Can we please hold off until morning. I need some time to think without you attacking on me. Please. I beg you.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 01:42, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
Good heavens guys, can you please stop this? I'm new to this wiki and frankly, two lot arguing like children over minuet things is becoming increasingly agitating. When someone new comes to the wiki, what do you think their first impression will be if they see this in the "wiki activity", and nothing else?
If you're not gonna have normal debates, but instead  fight  it out, make arrangements to do it some-place outside the wiki. I know I'm just an unregistered user, but that's the point. People like me see bull' like this and get scared to go anywhere near the wiki. 
Anyway, that's my two cents.
Kind regards. 2.26.110.17 07:17, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
I myself used to be surprised, anon. Changes I make have that effect on some people - Sligneris (talk) 07:55, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
If you're gonna argue this out, in a way that's starting to seem increasingly more childish and full of stupid attacks at each other, then I'd recommend you try and find a way to do so out-side the wiki. This kinda thing just makes people see the users of this wiki as immature children.
I'm not saying anyone is immature,or that anyone is right or wrong, but it doesn't exactly promote the wiki that well when all the wiki activity updates are filled with the same  2  or 3 people having edit wars and arguments.
Just, I suggest you  find some way to deal with it. A way that doesn't involve people spamming "arguments" all over the wiki activity  all the time. 2.26.110.17 08:19, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
Tell me about it. I myself found it quite annoying, to have this one person that kept undoing all the edits that wikia contributors here generally approved of. - Sligneris (talk) 14:53, June 23, 2014 (UTC)
I-I I'm sorry. I admit it. I was petty. I was a jerk! It was not wise to change the wiki and go into pointless arguements. I truly thought that the mugshot thingies or whatever you call them were useless. But I guess I am going to have to get used to them now aren't I. I am sorry that I caused this wiki to go go through our pettiness. (Side note- Thanks for bearing through this). I hope you can forgive me or at the very least understand why I wanted the old OAs to remain the same. It's a difference of opinion I guess. Niether one of us were right nor wrong. If you don't forive me I understand.
I thank you for putting off your edits for as long as you did. That did mean a lot that you were willing to nogotiate (You know what I mean). I hope we can can get along in the future. Again I am sorry for acting like a child on this subject but well it may be lame but I am kind of a hot head and arrogant. Or at least at times. Have fun finishing the edits, though I would wish if you would wait for more people to give their opinions but whatever you do is up to you. I am not your boss or any sort of superior. Again I am sorry, and I won't hinder your progress any further.

AnimalsEdit

What's your reasoning with your recent characters/minor characters/animals edits? I'm not sure I understand what you were trying to do... - Strabo412 (talk) 16:11, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, this? I just thought Animals aren't really synonymous to Minor characters anymore. I mean, characters like Cracker, Polly, Missile, at some point become pretty important, not to mention Taka, who's present in almost every case of DD... So, I thought it would be good idea to make it a category of itself. - Sligneris (talk) 16:20, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
So basically you're thinking we should just remove animals from both characters and minor characters? I suspected that was what you were going for, but the way you left some of them in the characters and minor characters categories threw me a bit. Did you mean to leave Regent as a minor character and Orla as a character for instance? To be honest, the whole minor character thing needs a re-examination in my opinion due to the current definition (character doesn't have a profile in the court record) being thrown out of wack a bit by PL vs PW. - Strabo412 (talk) 18:06, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Huh, no, I'd consider Animals to be still under Characters - Sligneris (talk) 18:17, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, was unclear. I'm not very good at explaining things. I mean were you wanting animal characters to still be categorised as "Characters" or "Minor characters"? Should all non-human characters (excluding Charley of course) only be categorised as "Animals" and not as "Characters" or "Minor characters"? - Strabo412 (talk) 19:51, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Or maybe only "Animals" unless they have a profile image like Kuro and Orla Shipley? - Strabo412 (talk) 19:54, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Well, for one, I thought "Animals" should be subcategory of "Characters", not "Minor characters". I also think not all animals should be considered "Minor characters". That's pretty much all I was thinking about, making these edits. - Sligneris (talk) 20:06, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Peace Edit

Ok Sligneris, let's be peaceful about this timeline. Please do explain what you meant in your other possible outcome with the discluding of months. I really don't want to be 5 today. Or at least for the rest of the day, so what do you say.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 23:17, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

I already did on that talk page. Sorry about the tone of that message, I'd probably be nicer had I noticed it here before - Sligneris (talk) 23:21, June 30, 2014 (UTC)
Sligneris, I need to say something, not directly relate to our spat! I'm going to be out of my hometown until Monday. If we don't solve this tonight can we please put this off until Monday? I'll gladly contact you to say I'm back home until then truce starting at midnight eastern standard time.Franzyfan1998 (talk) 00:24, July 2, 2014 (UTC)
I don't mean to rush you but I'm leaving in the morning so I need an answer before 9 am Eastern Standard time. And until then something that voices my opinin on the spat quite clearly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UIiT6ry6zQ. Again I hope we can have a truce. Franzyfan1998 (talk) 02:34, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

Let me make this clear, in as calm and polite a manner as possible. Edit

The longer you go on making rude or pointless comments, like calling people kids or saying stuff like "really, that's a penalty", the less likely I am to support your idea, so please, drop the act. Thank you for your consideration. CrashBash (talk) 12:21, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

GalleriesEdit

Your character gallery tabs template at the moment automatically creates a sprite gallery page. However, what about characters like Bruce Goodman who don't have sprites? - Strabo412 (talk) 15:52, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

I think those would just require another template, the usage of , or perhaps we could modify the template, so that it'd remove the "Sprite Gallery" part when an attribute is added, or something. - Sligneris (talk) 20:15, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

CharacterTab Edit

Hi. I've noticed that you've added the CharacterTab templates to the wiki, which are more or less, a bit modified version of the original one made by me. I don't have any particular objection with it, but I would like to ask you to attribute the original source. -- Fubuki風吹 talk 22:59, 09.17.2014

Ah, yes. I do remember mentioning Danganronpa Wiki when discussing those, but I couldn't exactly tell who I should credit.
Where should I apply the content source exactly? Template page, perhaps? - Sligneris (talk) 11:09, September 18, 2014 (UTC)
A link to w:c:danganronpa:Template:Tab on the template documentation, with attribution to the author should be fine enough. -- Fubuki風吹 talk 20:17, 09.18.2014
Alright, it's done now. I apologize it took so long, I didn't exactly have the access to a computer.
Also, I apologize I implemented it without permission in the first place. - Sligneris (talk) 15:07, September 22, 2014 (UTC)
No, it's alright. No worries. -- Fubuki風吹 talk 17:13, 09.22.2014
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